Well as seeing that any further development of Basic4GL will cease unless the Basic4GL community works on it, I think it's necessary that we should put together a plan for what can be done to improve Basic4GL so it won't end up being a "dead language"
things to do: -Basic4GL: ---compile a list of bugs ---brainstorm possible new features -Website: ---decide where to have the main site (wikispace or Adam's friend's personal server) ---improve web page design ---select admins (possibly the forum moderators)
Post anything that needs to be added to a list (to do, bugs, new features, etc)
If you have a design for an improvement for the basic4gl editor or website please attach a screenshot or html file to your reply, and then the community can vote on what they like.
Please keep replies on topic, any unnecessary comments will be removed from this thread.
Post by Supermonkey on Apr 19, 2010 16:26:48 GMT -5
I think before people start making requests we should have basic4gl in source control and at least have an idea of the kind of time and effort people are willing to put into its development. As far as the website goes I agree, couldn't we use sourceforge to host the site? Assuming basic4gl is going to be hosted on sourceforge? I'm thinking sourceforge would be the most reliable...
Personally, I think Basic4GL might attract more users if it had an actual website that is well designed and had more publicity (possible have its own facebook page and youtube channel), but i don't know enough about sourceforge to make any statements about the quality of its webhosting so that can be added to the list of possible places to have the main website.
updated to do list: -Basic4GL: ---have basic4gl source in control ---determine who will be willing to work on development -----assign tasks -----coordinate development (the forum's chat room could be useful for this) ---compile a list of bugs ---brainstorm possible new features -Website: ---decide where to have the main site -----wikispace, sourcefourge, or Adam's friend's personal server ---improve web page design ---improve publicity ---select admins (possibly the forum moderators)
Post by Darkjester on Apr 20, 2010 14:50:53 GMT -5
im going to have to agree with supermonkey, we definatly need to get in control of the source i have managed to get simple compiler succesfully compiled but it seems we really need the updated source to really go anywhere im emailing tom about the licensing so hopefullly in a couple days we can get started with something instead of just talking about it, also why not have a main site linked to sourceforge for the downloads lots of projects do it and it makes alot of sense -darkjester
Post by Supermonkey on Apr 20, 2010 15:43:54 GMT -5
I always thought you could have custom pages hosted on sourceforge, maybe i'm wrong... I don't see a need to change forum, we just need a new admin. A new site and some good examples of what basic4gl is capable of would go a long way in my opinion. Basic4gl in it's current state is very usable, there's no reason we can't do that before jumping in and making changes.
Post by Darkjester on Apr 20, 2010 16:09:54 GMT -5
I always thought you could have custom pages hosted on sourceforge, maybe i'm wrong...
i hadnt thought of that, yes i think your right supermonkey, since im making a sourceforge account ill look into that i think that would be a great idea that way everytyhing would be under teh same address and we could at least garuntee the server wouldnt be down -darkejster
I don't see a need to change forum, we just need a new admin. A new site and some good examples of what basic4gl is capable of would go a long way in my opinion. Basic4gl in it's current state is very usable, there's no reason we can't do that before jumping in and making changes.
I completely agree, and i would say one of the most impressive basic4gl projects that has been made is the team project with the spiders, and maybe add a screen of atropine (its not very functional but it looks really good compared to most of the b4gl code out there)
after we get that sorted out, i think another good option would be to make it an option to use b4gl as a command line compiler like c++ (or even freebasic) because different people have different likes based in IDEs.
Post by Supermonkey on Apr 20, 2010 17:17:25 GMT -5
Yeh, lets go one step at a time. If darkjester can clarify that you can host pages on sourceforge then I think that's the best option (easy for multiple people to maintain, reliable etc.). Then we need to get the latest source from tom under a licence that is suitable for sourceforge (is b4gl already on sourceforge? or was that basic4games?). Then we need to discuss who is capable of coming up with a nice site design (I hear community competition bells ringing). That way we have a vote and it's all fair.
Feel free to agree/disagree. I'm not saying this is how it is but in my opinion these are the 3 priorities.
Post by Wayne Rayner on Apr 20, 2010 19:23:09 GMT -5
I have a Sourceforge account and have had one since about a year ago and although I don't know but the irrlicht project has a pretty awesome site hosted on sourceforge and so does a couple of other projects so from there I'm pretty sure you can however I don't know how to.
Post by Supermonkey on Apr 21, 2010 6:20:43 GMT -5
Sorry, yeh I didn't mean one person to rule them all. I haven't used sourceforge before but I assumed there'd be 1 or more project leaders assigned to a project? Don't you have to have someone approve changes etc?